Firs Farm - Palmers Green Jewel in the North Firs Farm Firs Farm circa 1914, reproduced by kind permission of Enfield Local History Archive Firs Farm was to the east of Firs Lane - just north of the present day Fairway. The owner, Bruno & his wife lived opposite in Green Lanes 3rd floor above Phiipes: Ladies Hairdressers. Happy times Hazelwood Primary School, Hazelwood Lane youth club, the Rec on sunny days. I used to get home absolutely filthy but so happy. I suppose the range of shops in every High St has changed so much these days because almost everyone has a car, fridges and freezers and generally shop only once or twice a week, whereas when I was young, people shopped every day and had to walk to the shops for fresh produce. N21. It was a super meeting place for a great crowd, all feeling very sophisticated drinking coffee from glass cups. The wood walls remained! I cannot believe Miss Hughes was still there in 1960s. Thanks for the info. David they are wonderful memories arent they? History The Prisoners were building the estate up to Ash Grove. Is it still haunted? Palmers Green - a nostalgic memory of Palmers Green Palmers Green My grandmother lived at 50 Old Park Road, opposite Bloomfield Park, and I went to school at Franklin House School in Palmerston Road from 1955 to 1960, then the Winchmore Hill Collegiate School from 1960 to 1962. Was it also another name? In 1967 I became the signalman there. Last I heard he was still alive and well in his house in The Meadway, starving comfortably! I worked in that Bricks mens shop in1971. remember the milkman coming round with his horse? Beg to differ, Miss Hughes was headmistress of the Infants, and Miss Bellfontaine was headmistress of the juniors. Some are specific others generic. After the war he ran various bands Bert Harts band any combination. They were great times at that school but I then left at 11 to go to Ambrose Fleming Technical Grammar School for boys, what an awful place, hated every minute and left at 15. Opposite were the cottage gates where Italian Prisoners of War sold the plaitings of straw for pocket money. .and ALWAYS ordered egg, sausage & chips. I used it fir a while to work as a mini cab driver for a bloke called Roy that was in a tacky office opposite Woodberry Avenue (where I lived) in Green Lanes. There was a car dealership at the top end of Hedge Lane on the site currently occupied by Yaser Halim. Im sure he was in my class at Winchmore? You just came up in conversation and I Googled you. AnnywayI bought my first camera from Mr Kalms (Dixons) Edgeware (Agfa Silette) on the knock (so much a week) and cycled to Edgeware to pay the monthlya Canon copy of the Leica followed f1.8 lens but paid its way at weddins and I think I was one of the first to get back with ome developed colour (Ferrania) to the celebrations in them days. Wendy (was Wendy Small ), Hello Wendy, I do recall the ladies shop you mean. Palmers Green, Greater London Old Photos, Historic Maps, Local History Books and Memories of Palmers Green Frith photos prompt happy memories of our personal history, so enjoy this trip down memory lane with our old photos, historic maps, local history books, and memories of Palmers Green. We used to have a grocers van come around each week, does anyone remember Mr Meadows who ran this van? Was Mrs Dark the wife of Mr. Miss Bellefontaine was the head teacher at Hazelwood Infants school during the forties, I know as I attended that school. Sadly the open air pool no longer exists, I believe it has been replaced by our Council recycling centre on that site. Carol shares her memories of Grouts on the London RIP website, Memories of Palmers Green from the Francis Frith website, http://www.francisfrith.com/palmers-green/memories/. Hi John Its not my memory of PG thats off, its my ability to tell right from left Im waving my left hand around saying Im sure it was on this side!!! Residing in Florida but will be returning to the UK some time early next year and looking forward to checking out the old haunts. )(i am yet to be convinced I wos wrong). Since 1970 Ive lived in the Netherlands and from 1980 am the fortunate owner of a mint condition, unrestored 1963 Jaguar Mk 2, 3.4 litre. I remember we got a TV from Stanwood Radio and remember the tiny shop on alderman shill that had wood showing decay in the window. Palmers Greenery Community Caf open 10.30am - 12.00am Coronation street party at Bounds Green Bowls and Tennis Club 10.30am - 12.00pm Councillors' surgery: Palmers Green, New Southgate, Bowes and Highfield wards 2.30pm - 4.30pm People with Voices poetry and ideas workshop 8.00pm - 12.30am Live music: Jiminy Rockit Band My family name was Church but we have moved away now. It was a large detached house surrounded by a beautiful garden which took up the whole of that corner site. I had a mini and a few cortinas in the 70s all with big bore exhausts and used to make a deliberate noise going up Green lanes. The one on the right going North was Cullens The coffee machine was dark red and black.Cullens also had another outlet nr the Cherry tree at the end of the Mall. Thanks We went to Sothgate County Grammer School in Fox Lane. There was also Kate Riddle, a hat shop with a tasteful window display. Church under rev. I think it was called Harvey Sports (a friend of mine had a Saturday job there) & next door was a fabric shop called Metres which sold everything from net curtains to dress fabrics and upholstery materials, The couple who ran it were very kind & patient working our how much material you needed for your windows etc. I remember the Coffee place & it wasnt Home & Colonial.. that was a few doors up!! you could add doms cafe where you had a great breakfast there. It would have been maybe late 60s/ early 70s Also I remember the very high slide in Broomfield park with concrete below scary! Well the years are rolling back! Everett was the first black lad in our school in the mid 50s. Can u help??!! Its best to just have fond memories of how it was Sylvia. I left in 1986 as a Grocery Manager. By the way I went to Winchmore Secondary Modern in the days when Mr. Shepherd was headmaster I liked him a lot the naughty kids called him the beak but he was a nice man. The small side road was Devonshire Avenue which continued behind the shops and ended near the railway station at the Triangle. I knew of Joe performing at the Municipal Hall, Tottenham but he is not in our family tree. What a lovely road it was then. Hi John ! It is used by the Broomfield Model Boat Club. When a change of scenery was called for, it was all off to the Amelia coffee bar in Oakwood. It was called something like The Rubber Mac shop!!!! We called them Labour Exchanges and people were made to queue outside. To Gerry Hicks- yes I remember you, you had a wife called Rose and a daughter called Carol? Happy memories of Greenwood Gate Tennis Club in the Rec too, circa 1959 1963. Hi David, yes, I remember Keiths Cars being there for many years &, as Richard S says, it is now a tyre dealer and I remember Pitmans just opp. Hi Reg. Im sure Fred Rain lived in the Larches. OM G how I hated Grouts, I was marched in there twice a year by my mother to buy the navy knickers, beige brown high woollen socks and worst of all the liberty bodices with their horrible rubber buttonsall of which had to be worn to school until the end of May..despite a heat wave .I m shuddering to think of that shop and the humiliation it brought to me at Hazelwood Primary School. The corner premises were never re-built on and the empty space was then used as an open car forecourt called Kieths Cars. I went to Brownies and Guides at that church too! List of teachers at Hazelwood school 1960s, Miss Hughes, Mrs Jones, Mrs Lee, Mrs Dark. Ma used to send me there up Hedge Lane in the school olidays with a shillin for my lunch (includin tip)I remembers the custard. We had to make our own fun in those days, there were no iPads, computers,,,,,,,,,,, etc. It is managed by a group of volunteers. Other fine dinin hexperiences in dear ol Palmers Greengeograffical-wise goin east. Dordrecht, Netherlands He said there was money all over the place and as far as he could see it was all being collected up to be given back, The other corner was also hit and certainly Keith`s cars set up business there and eventually on both sides of Sidney Avenue, becoming a flourishing business. also the restuarant above the sweet shop in Green Lanes which was opposite the Queens Cinema? I certainly went in there c1961. Very interesting. I lived next to the Bird In Hand Pub in the early 79s, but my grandparents used to own a toy and Oran shop on the corner of Tottenham road and wolves lane. I have a friend who grew up in Palmers green and he says that there was no Tesco in Palmers green?!! When were all the doctors, dentists, solicitors along Green Lanes private residences? Wonderful. There were two blokes in the back workshop mending bikes and preparing new ones. Once in, the shop was very narrow and long with coats of all sorts hanging along the walls. Founded in 1901 by my grandfather, but was knocked down in the 60s to make way for the widened North Circular? Just a qwik qweery (my daughter is out this evenin an Im baby sittinso privit time on the computer, eh?) Can somebody help with this? julia, I remember Victor Value, we used the shop sometimes. Best wishes Amazing to find others to share memories with from those times. I used to go out with a boy who lived along The Larches, (number 92), in the 1960s. London My Palmers Green - movethat.co.uk Palmers Green past - Facebook Play nicely please. Thanks David, my son has just shown me some pictures of that dreadful scene at Sidney Ave but I think I must be losing the plot because I really dont remember it being a bomb site after the war. I also remember Miss Bellfountain (Spelling) she was head of the Junior before Miss Gibbs. I grew up in Palmers green He was simply the best jiver (having been a professional dancer in his younger days). Community life - Palmers Green Jewel in the North Memories of Grouts - Palmers Green Community Forums - Palmers Green Yes Simon there are on this site. My Grandparents ,my mother and my god mother were residents of Palmers Green in the 1910 onwards til abt. Yes, very tall, Scottish doctor with elderly receptionist and very noisy gas fire. Palmers Green Wikipedia Republished // WIKI 2 New River Crescent was bisected at the foot of Park Avenue. Which barbers do you mean? I lived in Tottenhall Road until 1955 when we moved to Winchmore Hill but I remember the home made guys outside the shops on Green Lanes. A quaint . He had been a prisoner of war and always seemed incredibly nervous. In answer to your question about tescos, I worked there for many years and there was a Tescos there. Was sad to see it go. Will email direct The Fox has a number of accolades. Until it closed. The coffee shop WAS on the right going towards Winchmore Hill, surely? Its great. I think Myrtle Road was built in 1950, is that right? Also went to Hazelwood Lane school then to Winchmore school previously. I wonder if anyone out there can help with a memory? Pennie, I can tell you have great taste! It was called Lawleys I believe. . James what year were you at Ambrose Fleming , I was there from when it first opened in 1962 [ I think ] until 1965 . Later, I remember seeing my very first E Type Jaguar outside the shop with a number plate personalised JA number forgotten. Was it a post office too? "Post your memories, photos, questions and stories relevant to Winchmore Hill And Palmers Green Memories. I recall watching with amazement whilst waiting as the barber lit a candle and singed older mens hair, hoping desperately he would not set light to m,e when my turn came! yes recall them well. Visit Website. He even used to ask children for a tip! I havent been back for many years but believe the Doms cafe is still there. Im doing some research on my family who lived in Tottenhall Road where teenagers and young adults hung out. Image supplied by Enfield Local Studies and Archive. He was a bit of a nifty jiver down Wood Green Jazz Club. One called Bourlet (nr Smokers Paradise) & Hinds which was almost opposite I think. By the way do you have a brother Brian, married to Rosemarie? In myddleton road there was a fish and chip shop I bought my red Mk III Ford Cortina from Keiths in the mid-late 1970s and my maye, Dave Todd bought a bright yellow one from the same dealer as I recall. Loved it there in palmer s green even earlier where l myself grew up too. You even remember the prices! Raymond, did you go to Ilfracombe Devon during the war. Shame I cannot post some photos here. Do you John manses I use to buy my records in the 70s and 80s, Lived in Palmers Green from 1966 to 1987. Rosalie lived in Palmers Green during the war, and provided this memory of her wartime life as part of the BBC project the WW2 Peoples War, an online archive of wartime memories contributed by members of the public and gathered by the BBC. 23 Green Lanes, Palmers Green, London N13 4TN, UK. Here in Cornwall too warm and damp this week for me as a farmer. Ive only just found your comment. Did you have a brother named Terry Hicks. On the other side of the road there was a record shop called Opus I used to spend a lot of time in there in the 70s, you could also buy records from John Menzies a few doors down. Mr Mardell was the Station Master, Dave Conway was a Porter and Ron Newman was the leading Porter. He has also now retired and the surgery has now moved nearer to the roundabout at W.Hill next to the petrol station. weve already ad enough laughs for the day over your conviction that The Sahara Desert is in the middle of Australia. Er, Dave, surely The Bezazz opened nearer 1957 than 1967 frothy coffee and all that. Perhaps he moved out of the area or maybe passed away and the family sold it but thats only a guess. We used to have all the hire vans parked on the forecourt in front of what clearly had been a showroom. Gerry Hicks, Hi. I remember having lunch with you on quite a number of occasions when I came down after moving to Bedfordshire, then Milton Keynes. Im impressed. Grouts the haberdashers on the corner of Green Lanes and a small side road the name of which I cant recall and then a little further down, near Fox Lane and on the other side a huge white post office. Truly some of the best times of my life in Palmers Green. All will be revealed on Google Street View. Sylvia 0 I grew in in NRC, What was there before the maisonettes were built. After several meetings of our Catchreeling Society, girls were allowed to participate. us failed musicians worship for evermore.no rush puttin the latest grandaughter Reenie to bed..ope she gets on the bandstand soon shes got the lungs for it and we may need er thirty shillins a week to pay orf the mortgage.Annyway (am I keepin you up?) The lived AT 56, Lightcliffe Road and granddad worked at a city bank. Bruno was my neighbour in the flats above the shops on the N Circular Rd and round the corner to Bows road He moved from the Quick service cafe to the Bezazz and as you say it was the hub for many. two of the teachers l remember and Mr bennet was our headmaster,.true air raid shelter was at the top of the play ground. I used to buy my records from Ashwells which was next door to Lloyds Bank. Ah yes. The archive can be found at bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar. roses) at certain times of the year and was very beautiful. Also Broody and Hicks who sold cameras in the 1970s. I owe so much to your father who be came friends with my father and would meet for a drink in the COCK TAVERN. Annyway my best buy camera wise was a Thornton Pickard plate (Camera Craft) in original tweed hold-all includin tripod. Conway park and blagdens lane were my playground when the old rubbish dump was behind the stables a goldmine of wartime and Victorian memorabilia. She bought all her underwear from there. There was and old git who served behind the sweet counter. Winchmore Hill - Wikipedia I lived at no46 Conway road, My mother knew your parents. OK sorry Lorna, but just thought the name being similar and all that. We lived in Osborne Road (1955 ) but then moved to Old Park Road just over 10 years later where we stayed until the late 70s. He took the train each morning from Palmers Green station. I owned a Maicoletta scooter in those days which out- paced the Vespas and Lambrettas of those days. Hello Stephen..thanks for your promptin memorriesjust south of your late employer street-wise in them days on the corner of edge Lane was alf a shop where I ad to take mas dry cleanins, come snow or shineannyway Dad ad to ave is dickies starched weekly ,cos he was appearin (come snow or shine) on Friday nights at the Manor ouse Turnpike Lane or Tottnam Muniplayin sax(s) clarinet, piano, accordian, dubble base etc for the fashionable dancers in them days. Just request to join and add your own memories and photos. Local records mention a Palmers Field in 1204 and a Palmers Grove in 1340. Does anyone remember Victor Value supermarket in Wood Green it was not far from the Civic center and before myddleton road. [10] My main memory of the Queens Cinema was the film The King and I which I watched there with one of my friends Malcom Oldhill. Good to have found this site. I started at Hazelwood in 1963 too and l also live in Singapore. Good lunch time food & very good value. One old lady lost her life in the fire. I practically lived in the Bezzaz Coffee Bar!!!! In my form 5 of us went on to become teachers.so much for the 11+ . But it is the cramped interior, with drawers reaching up the the ceiling, full of mysterious items linked with the esoteric art of higher level dressmaking that wont leave my memory, and the old ladies (probably not that old, but thats how I recalled them aged less than 9, when we moved from PG). We were entranced by the trendy clothes and selection of jazzy tights. There was a big fat man with tattoos who ran it and used the F word all the time. Mum was Pool Attendant at Barrowell Green but we still had to join those long queues to get in..so long a waitso full had to wait as Mrs. Barry only allowed the extras in as people left. I wasnt as lucky as you & never actually ate at Doms though, but if I was very good my treat was the ice cream and I still have a sweet tooth to this day. Thats where I bought my comics tooBeano, Whizzer & Chips and Sparkey. the smell as you walked anywhere near it .lovely. Man who attended late Queen's coronation as a schoolchild remembers If my memory is correct that represented .W.W. Palmers Green Congregational Church hall was built in Fox Lane in 1909, with a church designed in a late Gothic style by George Baines and Son being added alongside in 1913-14. . It had engraved glass in it and behind this door there was a barbers shop with two chaps who cut mens hair. Buy Intimate Memories: The History of the Intimate Theatre, Palmers Green by Geoff Bowden online at Alibris. The song's lyrics were written by Lewie's friend Keef Trouble, a fellow member of Brett Marvin and the Thunderbolts. Hi David It may be that your memory of PG is slightly off but, as I recall, it was the Home & Colonial grocer shop and it was on the left hand side as one went north towards Winchmore Hill; it was on that side shortly before Devonshire Road, the Fox Inn and Fox Lane, possibly about where the Red Cross shop has been in recent times. Opposite Grouts well almost. Laura. Just found this: The next occupant of the premises was Jays Furnishing Stores, a hire-purchase furniture store first listed in Wards 1911 directory. Incidentally Gran used to black her ever smouldering grate with liquid something which inevitably warmed the proceedings.
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